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		<title>By: Landscape Gardeners North London</title>
		<link>http://www.overseasthinktankforindonesia.com/2007/04/19/when-a-society-is-to-dull/comment-page-1/#comment-101090</link>
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		<title>By: Homepage</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Dec 2011 10:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Beni Bevly</title>
		<link>http://www.overseasthinktankforindonesia.com/2007/04/19/when-a-society-is-to-dull/comment-page-1/#comment-493</link>
		<dc:creator>Beni Bevly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 23:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bleu, Ria and Indratno,

All of us agree at one point that killing is not an excuse in solving problem. 

Below is the comment that I posted on &lt;a href=&quot;http://bleu-blog.blogspot.com/2007/04/gun-ownership-reduce-or-increase.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Bleu&#039;s blog&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt; and I would like to share it with you:

There is a brief test and a background check to get a license in the United States. Once one passes this selection, he or she could posses guns. Shotguns can be owned by without goi8ng through this prosess.

This is an easy process to have guns. The question, is that right because of having guns, people tend to kill each other? To me, it seems by owning guns, it does not necessary increase the statistic of killing others. For example, people in Canada have more rifles than their fellows do in the United States, however the statistics of killing others in Canada shows much lower compared to the United States.

That&#039;s why, in my article (Thank you for linking to my article, Blue), I tend to see the society as a whole process that makes somebody kill other.

Beni Bevly
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Beni Bevly &#124; Homepage &#124; 04.24.07 - 5:25 am &#124; #</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bleu, Ria and Indratno,</p>
<p>All of us agree at one point that killing is not an excuse in solving problem. </p>
<p>Below is the comment that I posted on <a href="http://bleu-blog.blogspot.com/2007/04/gun-ownership-reduce-or-increase.html" rel="nofollow"> <strong>Bleu&#8217;s blog</strong></a> and I would like to share it with you:</p>
<p>There is a brief test and a background check to get a license in the United States. Once one passes this selection, he or she could posses guns. Shotguns can be owned by without goi8ng through this prosess.</p>
<p>This is an easy process to have guns. The question, is that right because of having guns, people tend to kill each other? To me, it seems by owning guns, it does not necessary increase the statistic of killing others. For example, people in Canada have more rifles than their fellows do in the United States, however the statistics of killing others in Canada shows much lower compared to the United States.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why, in my article (Thank you for linking to my article, Blue), I tend to see the society as a whole process that makes somebody kill other.</p>
<p>Beni Bevly<br />
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Beni Bevly | Homepage | 04.24.07 &#8211; 5:25 am | #</p>
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		<title>By: Indratno Widiarto</title>
		<link>http://www.overseasthinktankforindonesia.com/2007/04/19/when-a-society-is-to-dull/comment-page-1/#comment-458</link>
		<dc:creator>Indratno Widiarto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 23:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If only there weren&#039;t any chance for American people to easily possess guns!. 

In my opinion, all the tragedies (Cho&#039;s case was not the first. There was similar massacre even done by younger student) is the product of American Democracy most Americans are proud of.

My deepest condolence to all family members of the victims.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If only there weren&#8217;t any chance for American people to easily possess guns!. </p>
<p>In my opinion, all the tragedies (Cho&#8217;s case was not the first. There was similar massacre even done by younger student) is the product of American Democracy most Americans are proud of.</p>
<p>My deepest condolence to all family members of the victims.</p>
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		<title>By: Ria Wibisono</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ria Wibisono</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 12:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, for me, what Cho did is absolutely wrong. No matter what his reason, he has no right to kill others. But, we can learn from this case that what we do to others may bring such bad effects. I heard that Cho was a victim of bullying, a common practice among students in America. I don&#039;t know why he has been bullied, maybe because of racism sentiment, maybe because he was poor. So, killing other students is his way to express his hidden anger. 
This kind of bullying practice however, is also happened in Indonesia. In many schools younger students often get bad treatment from the olders. And it happens from time to time. See the IPDN case for example. I&#039;m afraid that if no one can stop this bullying practice, there will be some Chos here in Indonesia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, for me, what Cho did is absolutely wrong. No matter what his reason, he has no right to kill others. But, we can learn from this case that what we do to others may bring such bad effects. I heard that Cho was a victim of bullying, a common practice among students in America. I don&#8217;t know why he has been bullied, maybe because of racism sentiment, maybe because he was poor. So, killing other students is his way to express his hidden anger.<br />
This kind of bullying practice however, is also happened in Indonesia. In many schools younger students often get bad treatment from the olders. And it happens from time to time. See the IPDN case for example. I&#8217;m afraid that if no one can stop this bullying practice, there will be some Chos here in Indonesia.</p>
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		<title>By: bleu</title>
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		<dc:creator>bleu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Apr 2007 00:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was probably tougher for an 8-year old to move to the U.S. than for an adult. The society could be too mean for kids (depending on where they live). Being bullied, picked on, etc.

That&#039;s when parents&#039; involvement is crucial, in my opinion. To &#039;normalize&#039; or sooth their kids&#039; feeling.

I&#039;m not saying Cho&#039;s parents are to bear the blame of what he did. I believe parents help form kids&#039; characteristics. Being more religious, involvement in social activities, and such. Or by telling their kids that rich and poor is just a fact of life. What&#039;s important is how we value it... or something along that line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was probably tougher for an 8-year old to move to the U.S. than for an adult. The society could be too mean for kids (depending on where they live). Being bullied, picked on, etc.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s when parents&#8217; involvement is crucial, in my opinion. To &#8216;normalize&#8217; or sooth their kids&#8217; feeling.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying Cho&#8217;s parents are to bear the blame of what he did. I believe parents help form kids&#8217; characteristics. Being more religious, involvement in social activities, and such. Or by telling their kids that rich and poor is just a fact of life. What&#8217;s important is how we value it&#8230; or something along that line.</p>
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		<title>By: Overseas Think Tank for Indonesia &#187; PARTAHI MAMORA HALOMOAN LUMBANTORUAN</title>
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		<dc:creator>Overseas Think Tank for Indonesia &#187; PARTAHI MAMORA HALOMOAN LUMBANTORUAN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 22:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Beni Bevly Yesterday, I wrote &#8220;WHEN A SOCIETY IS TOO DULL: Cho Seung-Hui’s Case&#8221; with opening statement in my first [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Beni Bevly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Beni Bevly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 20:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Evelyn and Adhi,
As an Asian, I am also so embarrassed by his inhumane behavior.  I think we all feel the same way.

Adhi, your question is hard for me to answer yes or no because after living in the United States almost for 10 years in a row, it&#039;s not easy for me to conclude whether they are really individualistic. 

In general, for sure their life styles have more privacy compared to Indonesians&#039;. It does not mean that they are ignorance. They also will offer their helps. They know their rights and they will not allow somebody to take it away from them. At the same time, they respect other people&#039;s rights. They have volunteer program which is like &quot;gotong royong&quot; in Indonesia.

However, in certain area, they can be really individualistic.  It depends on the composition of the population, their character, their culture and the level of stress or competition of life. Let&#039;s say, people in New York city are known for their individualism and rudeness.In this situation, the society, like what I mention in the article, becomes dull or insensitive.

I hope I answered your question, Adhi.

Evelyn and Adhi, thank you for your comments. I appreciate it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evelyn and Adhi,<br />
As an Asian, I am also so embarrassed by his inhumane behavior.  I think we all feel the same way.</p>
<p>Adhi, your question is hard for me to answer yes or no because after living in the United States almost for 10 years in a row, it&#8217;s not easy for me to conclude whether they are really individualistic. </p>
<p>In general, for sure their life styles have more privacy compared to Indonesians&#8217;. It does not mean that they are ignorance. They also will offer their helps. They know their rights and they will not allow somebody to take it away from them. At the same time, they respect other people&#8217;s rights. They have volunteer program which is like &#8220;gotong royong&#8221; in Indonesia.</p>
<p>However, in certain area, they can be really individualistic.  It depends on the composition of the population, their character, their culture and the level of stress or competition of life. Let&#8217;s say, people in New York city are known for their individualism and rudeness.In this situation, the society, like what I mention in the article, becomes dull or insensitive.</p>
<p>I hope I answered your question, Adhi.</p>
<p>Evelyn and Adhi, thank you for your comments. I appreciate it.</p>
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		<title>By: AdhiRock</title>
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		<dc:creator>AdhiRock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 14:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how sicks he is... he is totally metally ill. what do you think about US society bro? is it very individulism?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how sicks he is&#8230; he is totally metally ill. what do you think about US society bro? is it very individulism?</p>
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		<title>By: evelynpy</title>
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		<dc:creator>evelynpy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 13:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cho Seung-Hui very emmbarasing Asia!!!!!
I can&#039;t imagine why him have to kill anyone just because him very depresed!!!
So Poor You!!!!!!!

~evelyn.(Red Devil )
http://evelynpy.wordpress.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cho Seung-Hui very emmbarasing Asia!!!!!<br />
I can&#8217;t imagine why him have to kill anyone just because him very depresed!!!<br />
So Poor You!!!!!!!</p>
<p>~evelyn.(Red Devil )<br />
<a href="http://evelynpy.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">http://evelynpy.wordpress.com/</a></p>
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