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	<title>Comments on: NATIONAL BRANDING FOR INDONESIA</title>
	<link>http://www.overseasthinktankforindonesia.com/2007/06/08/national-branding-for-indonesia/</link>
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		<title>By: Beni Bevly</title>
		<link>http://www.overseasthinktankforindonesia.com/2007/06/08/national-branding-for-indonesia/#comment-12296</link>
		<dc:creator>Beni Bevly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 18:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.overseasthinktankforindonesia.com/2007/06/08/national-branding-for-indonesia/#comment-12296</guid>
		<description>Uri, Eddie and Saleem, thank you for the comments.

In order successful in branding, it is very important to create positive image. This positive image will influence how people or other countries perceive Indonesia. Even though a perception does not automatically represent the fact, but at certain level it is known as a reality. 

Therefor, Indonesia must represent itself as a mature and civilized nation regardless how young herself or how young her branding stategy is. It is true that Indonesia just declared its independence 63 years ago, however it does not mean Indonesia has alway to act like a new nation that still seeks for its identity. Will other countries say to Indonesia, "It's OK for Indonesia to the things that like uncivilized people did in the medieval period since Indonesia is a new born baby." No, they will not say that.  

South Korea who had independence day just one day different compared to Indonesia has left Indonesia far behind. Japan that was destroyed by USA in world war II, now leads technology invention in Asia and even in the world. We do not want to use "new born baby" as an excuse for us to justify our poor judgments and actions.

Many Indonesian government officials and people do not have the sense or urgency. This happens because they do not see any treat on our nation. If they have clear visions, they will be able to tell how danger Indonesia position and situation these days. They have to realize, if they do not act now, these treats will diminish and finally eliminate the existence of Indonesia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Uri, Eddie and Saleem, thank you for the comments.</p>
<p>In order successful in branding, it is very important to create positive image. This positive image will influence how people or other countries perceive Indonesia. Even though a perception does not automatically represent the fact, but at certain level it is known as a reality. </p>
<p>Therefor, Indonesia must represent itself as a mature and civilized nation regardless how young herself or how young her branding stategy is. It is true that Indonesia just declared its independence 63 years ago, however it does not mean Indonesia has alway to act like a new nation that still seeks for its identity. Will other countries say to Indonesia, &#8220;It&#8217;s OK for Indonesia to the things that like uncivilized people did in the medieval period since Indonesia is a new born baby.&#8221; No, they will not say that.  </p>
<p>South Korea who had independence day just one day different compared to Indonesia has left Indonesia far behind. Japan that was destroyed by USA in world war II, now leads technology invention in Asia and even in the world. We do not want to use &#8220;new born baby&#8221; as an excuse for us to justify our poor judgments and actions.</p>
<p>Many Indonesian government officials and people do not have the sense or urgency. This happens because they do not see any treat on our nation. If they have clear visions, they will be able to tell how danger Indonesia position and situation these days. They have to realize, if they do not act now, these treats will diminish and finally eliminate the existence of Indonesia.</p>
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		<title>By: Saleem</title>
		<link>http://www.overseasthinktankforindonesia.com/2007/06/08/national-branding-for-indonesia/#comment-12281</link>
		<dc:creator>Saleem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 05:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.overseasthinktankforindonesia.com/2007/06/08/national-branding-for-indonesia/#comment-12281</guid>
		<description>I am sure you make valid points about the 'state of the nation'. It's not easy to change the system without uprooting and changing the entire infrastructure. So, we must find smarter and effective ways to tackle all the issues one by one, with an accountable 'road map' of programmes along the way to make it happen. 

The government must lay the vision, educate and train civil servants and public sectors, collaborate with the private sectors; privide funding and infrastructure and framework.Seek public support and involvement to ensure the message and vision is being adopted at all levels. 

The nation needs a professional and independent framework that is collaborative and institutional with well placed guidelines. The key lies in having a non-politically driven and sustainable agenda that can be fully implemented over the agreed period of time regardless of who is in power on the day.

It won't be easy but it's not impossible. It starts from the leadership! And it all goes back to your points about the 'state of the nation'and about people's 'private interests and agendas'. And we are back in full circle!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sure you make valid points about the &#8217;state of the nation&#8217;. It&#8217;s not easy to change the system without uprooting and changing the entire infrastructure. So, we must find smarter and effective ways to tackle all the issues one by one, with an accountable &#8216;road map&#8217; of programmes along the way to make it happen. </p>
<p>The government must lay the vision, educate and train civil servants and public sectors, collaborate with the private sectors; privide funding and infrastructure and framework.Seek public support and involvement to ensure the message and vision is being adopted at all levels. </p>
<p>The nation needs a professional and independent framework that is collaborative and institutional with well placed guidelines. The key lies in having a non-politically driven and sustainable agenda that can be fully implemented over the agreed period of time regardless of who is in power on the day.</p>
<p>It won&#8217;t be easy but it&#8217;s not impossible. It starts from the leadership! And it all goes back to your points about the &#8217;state of the nation&#8217;and about people&#8217;s &#8216;private interests and agendas&#8217;. And we are back in full circle!</p>
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		<title>By: Eddie</title>
		<link>http://www.overseasthinktankforindonesia.com/2007/06/08/national-branding-for-indonesia/#comment-11605</link>
		<dc:creator>Eddie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 08:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.overseasthinktankforindonesia.com/2007/06/08/national-branding-for-indonesia/#comment-11605</guid>
		<description>Slogan "Malaysia Truly Asia" bukanlah sehebat yang kita 
sangka. Malah kebenaran slogan tersebut diragukan. Bayangkan, Malaysia mengklaim dirinya sebagai "Asia yang sebenarnya" yang terang-terangan menepikan bangsa, suku, dan ras dari bangsa Asia lain. Hal ini sempat mengundang protes dan kecaman untuk mencabut slogan tsb. Selain itu, isu rasisme dan politik kotor yg begitu kental dalam percaturan sosial di Malaysia sangat tidak melayakkan Malaysia untuk disebut sebagai simbol "Truly Asia".

Pada dasarnya, slogan "ultimate in diversity" justru lebih mendalam makna yang tersirat, selain itu juga sebagai simbol kebanggaan bangsa Indonesia yg memiliki ragam budaya, ras, agama, dan suku yang bernaung dalam suatu sistem yang coherent dan ber-civilized. Inilah yg harus kita tunjukkan kepada bangsa lain di dunia. Bukannya kita ikut-ikutan negara tetangga kita: koar-koar kampanye besar-besaran tourism yang berujung pada kebohongan publik. 

Gw akuin masih banyak yang perlu dipelajari oleh pemerintah kita dlm menggalakkan national branding. Tetapi tetaplah tidak adil untuk membandingkan Indonesia dengan negara lain. Indonesia masih tergolong newborn baby dalam national branding. Seharusnya didukung, eh kok malah dipijak-pijak martabatnya. 

Branding mengandung kejujuran dimana batasan kita mampu menyampaikan pesan secara jelas dan transparan.
"Branding isn't about the final result. It is the process that make it worth."


Just my two cents....harap maklum bila ada yg tersinggung.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slogan &#8220;Malaysia Truly Asia&#8221; bukanlah sehebat yang kita<br />
sangka. Malah kebenaran slogan tersebut diragukan. Bayangkan, Malaysia mengklaim dirinya sebagai &#8220;Asia yang sebenarnya&#8221; yang terang-terangan menepikan bangsa, suku, dan ras dari bangsa Asia lain. Hal ini sempat mengundang protes dan kecaman untuk mencabut slogan tsb. Selain itu, isu rasisme dan politik kotor yg begitu kental dalam percaturan sosial di Malaysia sangat tidak melayakkan Malaysia untuk disebut sebagai simbol &#8220;Truly Asia&#8221;.</p>
<p>Pada dasarnya, slogan &#8220;ultimate in diversity&#8221; justru lebih mendalam makna yang tersirat, selain itu juga sebagai simbol kebanggaan bangsa Indonesia yg memiliki ragam budaya, ras, agama, dan suku yang bernaung dalam suatu sistem yang coherent dan ber-civilized. Inilah yg harus kita tunjukkan kepada bangsa lain di dunia. Bukannya kita ikut-ikutan negara tetangga kita: koar-koar kampanye besar-besaran tourism yang berujung pada kebohongan publik. </p>
<p>Gw akuin masih banyak yang perlu dipelajari oleh pemerintah kita dlm menggalakkan national branding. Tetapi tetaplah tidak adil untuk membandingkan Indonesia dengan negara lain. Indonesia masih tergolong newborn baby dalam national branding. Seharusnya didukung, eh kok malah dipijak-pijak martabatnya. </p>
<p>Branding mengandung kejujuran dimana batasan kita mampu menyampaikan pesan secara jelas dan transparan.<br />
&#8220;Branding isn&#8217;t about the final result. It is the process that make it worth.&#8221;</p>
<p>Just my two cents&#8230;.harap maklum bila ada yg tersinggung.</p>
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		<title>By: uri</title>
		<link>http://www.overseasthinktankforindonesia.com/2007/06/08/national-branding-for-indonesia/#comment-11541</link>
		<dc:creator>uri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 13:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.overseasthinktankforindonesia.com/2007/06/08/national-branding-for-indonesia/#comment-11541</guid>
		<description>kebetulan lagi bikin tugas tentang nation branding di Indonesia. pas lagi research2 ketemu website ini. :P

sempet baca satu artikel, katanya visit indonesian 2008 campaign dengan tema utama The Ultimate in Diversity itu mo nyaingin campaignnya malaysia yg Truly Asia itu.

tapi pas liat logo Truly Asia, terus terang jauuuuuhhhhhh lebih mantap daripada yg Ultimate in Diversity.

duh, padahal setau saya, di indo itu banyak sekali orang-orang yg sangat hebat dalam hal design.

tapi yah, seperti kata Ikiu, penghargaan kepada mereka-mereka yg punya talenta dan niat baik untuk kemajuan Indonesia masih belon didukung sepenuhnya.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kebetulan lagi bikin tugas tentang nation branding di Indonesia. pas lagi research2 ketemu website ini. <img src='http://www.overseasthinktankforindonesia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>sempet baca satu artikel, katanya visit indonesian 2008 campaign dengan tema utama The Ultimate in Diversity itu mo nyaingin campaignnya malaysia yg Truly Asia itu.</p>
<p>tapi pas liat logo Truly Asia, terus terang jauuuuuhhhhhh lebih mantap daripada yg Ultimate in Diversity.</p>
<p>duh, padahal setau saya, di indo itu banyak sekali orang-orang yg sangat hebat dalam hal design.</p>
<p>tapi yah, seperti kata Ikiu, penghargaan kepada mereka-mereka yg punya talenta dan niat baik untuk kemajuan Indonesia masih belon didukung sepenuhnya.</p>
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		<title>By: Beni Bevly</title>
		<link>http://www.overseasthinktankforindonesia.com/2007/06/08/national-branding-for-indonesia/#comment-1303</link>
		<dc:creator>Beni Bevly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 20:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.overseasthinktankforindonesia.com/2007/06/08/national-branding-for-indonesia/#comment-1303</guid>
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Ikiu&lt;/strong&gt;, terima kasih untuk informasinya, sehingga yang lain bisa lebih jelas melihat pekerjaan mereka. Aku udah cek web site-nya. Lingk-nya klik &lt;a href="http://my-indonesia.info/page.php?ic=651" rel="nofollow"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;di sini&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Ikiu</strong>, terima kasih untuk informasinya, sehingga yang lain bisa lebih jelas melihat pekerjaan mereka. Aku udah cek web site-nya. Lingk-nya klik <a href="http://my-indonesia.info/page.php?ic=651" rel="nofollow"><strong>di sini</strong></a>.</p>
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		<title>By: ikiu</title>
		<link>http://www.overseasthinktankforindonesia.com/2007/06/08/national-branding-for-indonesia/#comment-1293</link>
		<dc:creator>ikiu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 06:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.overseasthinktankforindonesia.com/2007/06/08/national-branding-for-indonesia/#comment-1293</guid>
		<description>hmm ngomongin branding indonesia coba liat deh logo branding "Indonesia, The Ultimate in Diversity" yang dikeluarin ama dept. kebudayaan n pariwisata,,bisa diliat di situsnya,,gimana mau ngebangun citra indonesia yang baik sedangkan membuat logonya aja ga serius begitu,,entah masih dipake ato ga yang pasti logo yang diluncurin tengah taun 2006 ini ga menarik secara visual apalagi korelasi antara tagline dengan visualnya sama sekali ga ada!,,izinkan saya meluapkan sedikit emosi mengingat beberapa kali berurusan dengan instansi pemerintah dalam proyek2 komunikasi visual, mereka kaya'nya emang cuma mau mencairkan anggaran departemennya aja tanpa serius berkomitmen untuk menjalankan program2 yang mereka bwat sendiri,,diberi penjelasan ini itu ga mempan, mereka cuma bilang 'udah ga usah bagus2 yang penting jadi' ato 'bikinin yang bagus dong tapi jangan mahal2 yah',,hah bt :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hmm ngomongin branding indonesia coba liat deh logo branding &#8220;Indonesia, The Ultimate in Diversity&#8221; yang dikeluarin ama dept. kebudayaan n pariwisata,,bisa diliat di situsnya,,gimana mau ngebangun citra indonesia yang baik sedangkan membuat logonya aja ga serius begitu,,entah masih dipake ato ga yang pasti logo yang diluncurin tengah taun 2006 ini ga menarik secara visual apalagi korelasi antara tagline dengan visualnya sama sekali ga ada!,,izinkan saya meluapkan sedikit emosi mengingat beberapa kali berurusan dengan instansi pemerintah dalam proyek2 komunikasi visual, mereka kaya&#8217;nya emang cuma mau mencairkan anggaran departemennya aja tanpa serius berkomitmen untuk menjalankan program2 yang mereka bwat sendiri,,diberi penjelasan ini itu ga mempan, mereka cuma bilang &#8216;udah ga usah bagus2 yang penting jadi&#8217; ato &#8216;bikinin yang bagus dong tapi jangan mahal2 yah&#8217;,,hah bt <img src='http://www.overseasthinktankforindonesia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: miund</title>
		<link>http://www.overseasthinktankforindonesia.com/2007/06/08/national-branding-for-indonesia/#comment-1270</link>
		<dc:creator>miund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 20:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.overseasthinktankforindonesia.com/2007/06/08/national-branding-for-indonesia/#comment-1270</guid>
		<description>well as a design-conscious person, i do think we should create a totally NEW image for the country.  the design 'ministry' is at least starting to do it.  the problem is... will they be heard to the country's higher-ups? :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well as a design-conscious person, i do think we should create a totally NEW image for the country.  the design &#8216;ministry&#8217; is at least starting to do it.  the problem is&#8230; will they be heard to the country&#8217;s higher-ups? <img src='http://www.overseasthinktankforindonesia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Beni Bevly</title>
		<link>http://www.overseasthinktankforindonesia.com/2007/06/08/national-branding-for-indonesia/#comment-1155</link>
		<dc:creator>Beni Bevly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jun 2007 18:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.overseasthinktankforindonesia.com/2007/06/08/national-branding-for-indonesia/#comment-1155</guid>
		<description>Wow, now I have seen that, &lt;strong&gt;Miund&lt;/strong&gt;. Do you think that we need to create such as image for Indonesia? :) Thanks for your comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, now I have seen that, <strong>Miund</strong>. Do you think that we need to create such as image for Indonesia? <img src='http://www.overseasthinktankforindonesia.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> Thanks for your comment.</p>
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		<title>By: miund</title>
		<link>http://www.overseasthinktankforindonesia.com/2007/06/08/national-branding-for-indonesia/#comment-1093</link>
		<dc:creator>miund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 06:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pak Beni, i take that you haven't seen this:  http://menteridesainindonesia.blogspot.com
this guy, the design minister, is so creative! if only our government bloghops.  hahahahakhakhak!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pak Beni, i take that you haven&#8217;t seen this:  <a href="http://menteridesainindonesia.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://menteridesainindonesia.blogspot.com</a><br />
this guy, the design minister, is so creative! if only our government bloghops.  hahahahakhakhak!</p>
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		<title>By: Beni Bevly</title>
		<link>http://www.overseasthinktankforindonesia.com/2007/06/08/national-branding-for-indonesia/#comment-1011</link>
		<dc:creator>Beni Bevly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 16:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.overseasthinktankforindonesia.com/2007/06/08/national-branding-for-indonesia/#comment-1011</guid>
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Anymatters&lt;/strong&gt;, it sounds like to be a superpower. I like it.

&lt;strong&gt;Adhi&lt;/strong&gt;, good point. Instead of prioritizing reformation as a whole that is very wide and complicated, I think it is more effective to reinforce our law system first, just like what you said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Anymatters</strong>, it sounds like to be a superpower. I like it.</p>
<p><strong>Adhi</strong>, good point. Instead of prioritizing reformation as a whole that is very wide and complicated, I think it is more effective to reinforce our law system first, just like what you said.</p>
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