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		<title>By: Overseas Think Tank for Indonesia &#187; OVERSEAS THINK TANK FOR INDONESIA</title>
		<link>http://www.overseasthinktankforindonesia.com/2007/07/06/deliver-us-from-evil/comment-page-1/#comment-3004</link>
		<dc:creator>Overseas Think Tank for Indonesia &#187; OVERSEAS THINK TANK FOR INDONESIA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 18:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] other good news is that one of the OTTI&#8217;s articles, Deliver Us from Evil was archived by www.bishop-accountability.org, a non-profit corporation based in Massachusetts, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] other good news is that one of the OTTI&#8217;s articles, Deliver Us from Evil was archived by <a href="http://www.bishop-accountability.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.bishop-accountability.org</a>, a non-profit corporation based in Massachusetts, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: colson</title>
		<link>http://www.overseasthinktankforindonesia.com/2007/07/06/deliver-us-from-evil/comment-page-1/#comment-2941</link>
		<dc:creator>colson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 10:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sexual abuse takes place in situations of inequality. It ranges from trafficking and exploitation of girls and women who live in desperate economic conditions, by pimps disguised as businessmen, via rape of women by a gang of men, to children molested by their parents or wives raped by husbands in marriages of inequality.

Institutions like prisons, military compounds even combine two dangerous conditions: strict hierarchy ( inequality) and isolation. This is - to a certain, milder, degree- the case also in institutions like boarding schools, scouting, sports clubs etc. In these institutions adults have got responsibility to take care of children. Unfortunately the RC clergy often operates in conditions that are similar.

So the phenomena reported above are a shame, but not a surprise. The same kind of terrible incidents happen in the other institutions. And may even outnumber ( relatively) the cases of pedophilia in the RC Church. But nevertheless in this case these crimes are extremely disgusting because
a) priests claim to act as men of God and b) the Vatican, RC church hierarchy at large, which claims to stand for the truth by definition, did and does in fact its utmost to lie, deny and cover up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sexual abuse takes place in situations of inequality. It ranges from trafficking and exploitation of girls and women who live in desperate economic conditions, by pimps disguised as businessmen, via rape of women by a gang of men, to children molested by their parents or wives raped by husbands in marriages of inequality.</p>
<p>Institutions like prisons, military compounds even combine two dangerous conditions: strict hierarchy ( inequality) and isolation. This is &#8211; to a certain, milder, degree- the case also in institutions like boarding schools, scouting, sports clubs etc. In these institutions adults have got responsibility to take care of children. Unfortunately the RC clergy often operates in conditions that are similar.</p>
<p>So the phenomena reported above are a shame, but not a surprise. The same kind of terrible incidents happen in the other institutions. And may even outnumber ( relatively) the cases of pedophilia in the RC Church. But nevertheless in this case these crimes are extremely disgusting because<br />
a) priests claim to act as men of God and b) the Vatican, RC church hierarchy at large, which claims to stand for the truth by definition, did and does in fact its utmost to lie, deny and cover up.</p>
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		<title>By: lyl</title>
		<link>http://www.overseasthinktankforindonesia.com/2007/07/06/deliver-us-from-evil/comment-page-1/#comment-2837</link>
		<dc:creator>lyl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2007 08:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah.. that pedophile priest are bad if they are proven guilty.  They are iresponsible with his commitment to enter the celibacy. I don&#039;t know why they stay as a priest. I think married will not solve the problem too. They will make more mistakes with corruption, because wife need to go on cruise and kids want bimer. Or wife want week end times with the family instead of letting the priest to give church service.Catholic institution gives people choices; if you would like to become a priest then you have to take a celibacy vows. If not then get married. I think Catholic priest also have to take several  vows to leave in proverty, celibacy and.. serve , not sure about other vow.

Oh... well, we just need to be carefull.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah.. that pedophile priest are bad if they are proven guilty.  They are iresponsible with his commitment to enter the celibacy. I don&#8217;t know why they stay as a priest. I think married will not solve the problem too. They will make more mistakes with corruption, because wife need to go on cruise and kids want bimer. Or wife want week end times with the family instead of letting the priest to give church service.Catholic institution gives people choices; if you would like to become a priest then you have to take a celibacy vows. If not then get married. I think Catholic priest also have to take several  vows to leave in proverty, celibacy and.. serve , not sure about other vow.</p>
<p>Oh&#8230; well, we just need to be carefull.</p>
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		<title>By: yeny</title>
		<link>http://www.overseasthinktankforindonesia.com/2007/07/06/deliver-us-from-evil/comment-page-1/#comment-1292</link>
		<dc:creator>yeny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 06:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pedophile and sexually abusive mostly did by people in society very nice attitude like teacher, priest and loving father.

Celebacy is main cause of this?I don&#039;t think this is not true enough, if i can analysis the pedophilia is man/woman that really want having sex badly, they won&#039;t doing this with a mature person but with young person.Hmmm...maybe there is true that celebacy one of the reason why they love child. Married did by two of adult.So desire about sex they  express to child or  someone don&#039;t have power to say no .

But I&#039;m still confuse with  father  that have patner (wife) can do like this  and in   society he have good manner

Hehehehe...I&#039;m confuse now</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pedophile and sexually abusive mostly did by people in society very nice attitude like teacher, priest and loving father.</p>
<p>Celebacy is main cause of this?I don&#8217;t think this is not true enough, if i can analysis the pedophilia is man/woman that really want having sex badly, they won&#8217;t doing this with a mature person but with young person.Hmmm&#8230;maybe there is true that celebacy one of the reason why they love child. Married did by two of adult.So desire about sex they  express to child or  someone don&#8217;t have power to say no .</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m still confuse with  father  that have patner (wife) can do like this  and in   society he have good manner</p>
<p>Hehehehe&#8230;I&#8217;m confuse now</p>
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		<title>By: Beni Bevly</title>
		<link>http://www.overseasthinktankforindonesia.com/2007/07/06/deliver-us-from-evil/comment-page-1/#comment-1289</link>
		<dc:creator>Beni Bevly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 21:59:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Micheal, Rusdy, Bleu&lt;/strong&gt; and &lt;strong&gt;Guebukanmonyet&lt;/strong&gt;, thank you for the comments. 

In the &lt;em&gt;Deliver Us from Evil&lt;/em&gt; documentary, it obvious that the Pope did not accept the victims at the Basilica, Vatican and he requested immunity prosecution from President Bush. This is not a solution because he still kept the secrecy.

Sometime, especially for many Catholic practitioners, it is hard to see those priests as ordinary human beings just like us. That&#039;s why, many of them think they will not make mistakes. Once it happens, even though the percentage is still below average, it&#039;s seemed already way too much and beyond their tolerable lines.  

If somebody is interested in older women, it tends to show the normal symptom. Because it is normal, so it is easy to control. But not with the pedophilia symptom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Micheal, Rusdy, Bleu</strong> and <strong>Guebukanmonyet</strong>, thank you for the comments. </p>
<p>In the <em>Deliver Us from Evil</em> documentary, it obvious that the Pope did not accept the victims at the Basilica, Vatican and he requested immunity prosecution from President Bush. This is not a solution because he still kept the secrecy.</p>
<p>Sometime, especially for many Catholic practitioners, it is hard to see those priests as ordinary human beings just like us. That&#8217;s why, many of them think they will not make mistakes. Once it happens, even though the percentage is still below average, it&#8217;s seemed already way too much and beyond their tolerable lines.  </p>
<p>If somebody is interested in older women, it tends to show the normal symptom. Because it is normal, so it is easy to control. But not with the pedophilia symptom.</p>
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		<title>By: guebukanmonyet</title>
		<link>http://www.overseasthinktankforindonesia.com/2007/07/06/deliver-us-from-evil/comment-page-1/#comment-1287</link>
		<dc:creator>guebukanmonyet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 20:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder why there are so many priests have committed such sin. I mean they could&#039;ve chosen older women, right? But, I think never blame the religion for people&#039;s stupidity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder why there are so many priests have committed such sin. I mean they could&#8217;ve chosen older women, right? But, I think never blame the religion for people&#8217;s stupidity.</p>
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		<title>By: bleu</title>
		<link>http://www.overseasthinktankforindonesia.com/2007/07/06/deliver-us-from-evil/comment-page-1/#comment-1285</link>
		<dc:creator>bleu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 14:30:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t really buy that mandatory celibacy is a main cause of this disgusting act. I do think it&#039;s, again, blown out-of-proportion, just because these people &#039;should be&#039; religious. An online source refers to 2-20% of overall population is somewhat pedophilic. So 4% is below average.

To Jennie&#039;s point, I think the number of agnostic, or agnostic-like, people out there is growing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t really buy that mandatory celibacy is a main cause of this disgusting act. I do think it&#8217;s, again, blown out-of-proportion, just because these people &#8217;should be&#8217; religious. An online source refers to 2-20% of overall population is somewhat pedophilic. So 4% is below average.</p>
<p>To Jennie&#8217;s point, I think the number of agnostic, or agnostic-like, people out there is growing.</p>
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		<title>By: Rusdy</title>
		<link>http://www.overseasthinktankforindonesia.com/2007/07/06/deliver-us-from-evil/comment-page-1/#comment-1283</link>
		<dc:creator>Rusdy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 01:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My prayer for the victims, I hope they will find true comfort from the true God, not men!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My prayer for the victims, I hope they will find true comfort from the true God, not men!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael McManus</title>
		<link>http://www.overseasthinktankforindonesia.com/2007/07/06/deliver-us-from-evil/comment-page-1/#comment-1282</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael McManus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 09:31:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the Church had followed Christs teaching from the bible and not church dogma there would have been many less victims, One thing that puzzles me Catholics claim to be against child abuse, But they back the cover up, When you point this out you are classed as a bigot or your evil, This documentary proves my point</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the Church had followed Christs teaching from the bible and not church dogma there would have been many less victims, One thing that puzzles me Catholics claim to be against child abuse, But they back the cover up, When you point this out you are classed as a bigot or your evil, This documentary proves my point</p>
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		<title>By: Beni Bevly</title>
		<link>http://www.overseasthinktankforindonesia.com/2007/07/06/deliver-us-from-evil/comment-page-1/#comment-1279</link>
		<dc:creator>Beni Bevly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jul 2007 04:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Jennie&lt;/strong&gt;, thank you for pointing out and elaborating more on dogma or doctrine point of view that causes absolute power. And we know “Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely.&quot;

&lt;strong&gt;Adhi&lt;/strong&gt;, nice to hear from you again. I agree with you that not all priests got involved in this embarrassing matter. As I mentioned above, there were 4% of all the priests in the United Stated who did it. But still, it is not acceptable.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Jennie</strong>, thank you for pointing out and elaborating more on dogma or doctrine point of view that causes absolute power. And we know “Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely.&#8221;</p>
<p><strong>Adhi</strong>, nice to hear from you again. I agree with you that not all priests got involved in this embarrassing matter. As I mentioned above, there were 4% of all the priests in the United Stated who did it. But still, it is not acceptable.</p>
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